| Mitigation plan [message #67466] |
Mon, 08 June 2009 23:59  |
 dbmv 
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If the news of the passing of Ligesh is true, and it appears to be, we, as users of LX software need to create mitigation plans.
While having the utmost respect as a human being, we need to ensure our own businesses (and some might say lives) aren't negatively impacted by this sudden tragedy.
Are you planning on getting the source code for the software? Moving to an alternative panel?
[Updated on: Fri, 12 June 2009 16:35] by Moderator
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67467 is a reply to message #67466] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 00:02  |
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I too would like to say this with the utmost respect for Ligesh.
I would prefer the source code, particularly since a migration would be painful and expensive. Perhaps we can get the source and make Kloxo/HyperVM the panels that Ligesh wanted them to be.
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67481 is a reply to message #67467] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 00:19 |
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MY heart is sad such a brilliant mind has been lost, my condolences to this troubled family.
ON the business side:
Of immediate concern, some software systems if master license goes offline will not function.
Does anyone know if this can happen with hypervm or kloxo. Assuming server fees are unpaid next month is there a total system collapse possible?
Does anyone know last will provisions or family that can be contacted?
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67487 is a reply to message #67481] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 00:28 |
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| daguy wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 00:19 | MY heart is sad such a brilliant mind has been lost, my condolences to this troubled family.
ON the business side:
Of immediate concern, some software systems if master license goes offline will not function.
Does anyone know if this can happen with hypervm or kloxo. Assuming server fees are unpaid next month is there a total system collapse possible?
Does anyone know last will provisions or family that can be contacted?
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I just tested and no, if it can't contact the license server, it won't just die. It will merely say "cant_find_license_server." It was on a 40 domain license server (unlicensed) we were going to set up right before the vulnerabilities.
As for HyperVM, I do not know what the consequences of that would be.
I don't know any family or anyone of his, and I doubt any forum members do. I hope S Bhargava is real and will respond with some sort of information.
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67497 is a reply to message #67494] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 00:37 |
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Don't do any upgrades (/script/upcp) or license updates. It resets to default apparently when it can't contact the server. That means if you have more than 40 domains you will be in a ton of pain.
This is just in case. Obviously there is little chance anything will happen until whenever the server renewal usually happens, but just in case.
We really do need the source code and to develop it out/fix the bugs, because without one, most of us won't be able to migrate and a good deal of people will have to lose their companies.
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67501 is a reply to message #67487] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 00:39 |
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he police said Ligesh, son of Dr Sreedharan of Kannur, Kerala, was a brilliant software engineer who came to the city about four years ago. He set up his company which was doing quite well and stayed with a friend Sheenu in the same house where his company was located.
Does anyone know: Dr Sreedharan or Sheenu ???
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67503 is a reply to message #67499] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 00:42 |
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| dbmv wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 00:39 | Hypothetically speaking, should we not be able to obtain the "official" source code...options? Or take the pill and move on?
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We would need to get it in the unencrypted format, which only Ligesh has I believe, or rather had.
I hope someone can shed some light on this because it is a nightmare for us all, particularly his family.
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67512 is a reply to message #67466] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 01:26 |
R1Lover
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This guy says he is on the way to his house, I guess he lived nearby?
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=867514
I don't think anyone is going to get there hands on the source code, are best best is to find a new CP and move on.
I'm just running a few dedicated servers and not using hypervm, what are the rest of you going to use?
cpanel is too outdated and slow, I need mysql 5, php 5 and apache 2 in order to keep moving forward, it seems cpanel is still running mysql 4 for some reason.
Ideas?
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67514 is a reply to message #67512] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 01:37 |
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We will need to find another panel if this can't go forward. I am afraid we may need to cut out hosting from my company if we can't continue with Kloxo. It would be much easier to encourage clients to move than to migrate to another CP.
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| Will purchase hosting clientele [message #67518 is a reply to message #67514] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 02:04 |
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I am interested in picking up clients, if due to tragedy some webhosts are closing operations.
Wishing everyone well, and really hoping you all succeed and do not have to take up this offer.
Would be willing to work out a payment plan or complete buyout, feel free to pm me or email. In PST time zone in Canada for skype calls.
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| Re: Migration [message #67544 is a reply to message #67540] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 05:02 |
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It's far too early to panic, I am sure in the next week there will be announcements, that will clarify most questions on the future.
One would think family, friends will inform us of developments, I am going to try to take a deep breath and relax...
Now you should know that due to this tragedy, I can't sleep and am typing this when I should be in bed  so much for breathing deeply...
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67554 is a reply to message #67466] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 05:55 |
netearth
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I would say that if it could be (if the source is found), release to OpenSource and in memory of the founder the project is carried on?
I would be willing to donate resource to it, time and servers.
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67592 is a reply to message #67466] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 09:52 |
Silence
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The source code i mentioned is an older version of lxadmin that can be decrypted (in case i can find it in my drive) in case i find it i can't relase it, not yet, i will get in trouble if someone of lx staff is still alive.
We have bigger problems now..a cp with some serious exploits, once the exploits have been released to public is not safe to use lxadmin (unless you protect httpdocs folder of lxadmin with dirprotection), also... webmail packs, awstats, lxphp & lxlighty and other rpms.. are stored in downloads server, also the forum... if nobody pays server fees this will dissapear :S we should make an alternative forum in case that happens..
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67636 is a reply to message #67466] |
Tue, 09 June 2009 12:13 |
dbmv
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We have some serious issues to face in terms of migration. Nothing was really documented in LxAdmin (in the case of HyperVM, it's a bit easier, with the vz conf files and containers running seperately)
Each website will need to be re-created on its own, email addresses, dns entries, http files, sql databases and so on. It will break many scripts, as the naming conventions need to be different for the cluster (as to not create dns conflicts with online servers) along with completely different IP's and propagation.
In other words, a complete and utter nightmare.
So, I see it as either we can get our hands on the source code, clean up the major bugs and security within the first few days, and move on, or move everything over to Interworx (no way am I touching parallels). Promising panel, only 6$ more per month than Kloxo. Less flexible..
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| Re: Mitigation plan [message #67763 is a reply to message #67466] |
Wed, 10 June 2009 07:48 |
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Hello,
Please read this post on WHT - www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=6229471&postcount=214
His father and uncle are most probably employing new developers to continue LxLabs. If that is the case, in 2 weeks we will be able to see some results and can decide upon the continued use of Kloxo/HyperVM.
I wish that the great work done by Ligesh is continued for ever.
Regards
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